Did spartans have gay sex

Lovers and Soldiers

If by some contrivance a city, or an army, of lovers and their juvenile loves could approach into being . . . then, fighting alongside one another, such men, though few in number, could defeat practically all humankind. For a guy in love would rather have anyone other than his lover see him leave his place in the line or toss away his weapons, and often would rather die on behalf of the one he loves.

Plato wrote the Symposium probably around BCE. At that time, many Greek states were subjected to the hegemony of the Spartans, who were enjoying a period of dominance after defeating the Athenians in in the devastating Peloponnesian War. But one of these states, Thebes, stood up to the military might of Sparta. In doing so, the Thebans realized Phaedrus’s vision: They created an elite corps of three hundred soldiers, known as the Sacred Band of Thebes, comprising pairs of male lovers who fought side-by-side in the name of freedom.

Given the uncertainty of the exact dine of writing, Plato might have been referring explicitly to the Sacred Band, which was formed in

GAY POWER AND SEXUALITY

THE SOLDIERS OF THE ANCIENT WORLD

THE GAY SEXUAL REVOLUTION OF TODAY

In the ancient society gay sexuality and bisexuality were celebrated.   Sexuality in general was celebrated for the powerful life press it is.

Gay sexuality was common among the strongest soldiers.   Sparta's mighty warriors openly fucked other men.   Overall, it is clear that most of these men were bi not exclusively gay.  However, raw animal sex among men was common, approved and enjoyed.

Women such as the great Greek poet, Sappho, openly celebrated their love for fucking other women.

The ancients saw sexuality as connected to fertility and nature. Among some Native American tribes, 'two spirits' were individuals who acted and dressed appreciate the opposite gender - these people were revered as shamans. In China and Japan there is a large variety of artwork dating back to thousands of years that documents same sex affectionate . In Rome, all the emperors in the Caesar line took male lovers, except for Claudius.   Even one of the gr

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Among spartans, as all greeks but maybe more, homosexuality with young "honest, attractive" males was considered a nice thing and there were even some laws about it, to clarify the fact the kids/young adolescents should agree to that. Not having had a adorable young lover was considered a bad thing.

If you do not believe me, read some books or just google or travel on wikipedia.

You do not see this on movie but when a young spartan reached the age o "adult" (about 14, when first hair grew) they were sent to expend some time with a "teacher" who taught him many thingsand usually he asked his "prize" for that. You were not obliged, but almost everyone did it.
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Re: Spartan pederasty? - Kineas -

I wouldn't deny that homosexuality existed in Sparta or Athens or anywhere else, but it is worth noting that, for instance, if homosexuality were the "norm" that some modern historians make it (wish it?) then Aristophanes's Lysistrata (Λυσιστράτη) ( BC) would not have been funny.

Lysistrata is a comedy in which the women of Athens and Sparta reject to have sex with their husbands until they make peace. The engage was written in the darkest days of the 30 Year's War and if Greek men, or even men of the Hoplite Class in either state had been "mostly" or even "some" gay, the point of the play would vanish--it wouldn't have been funny then.

I'd further argue that Plutarch and Polybius are at the root of a great many tales of pederasty and the like. Look--let's face it, any system that allows the mature (men or women) special powers and privileges over the immature (men or women) usually results in sexual exploitation. But it seems to me that it suited later, mostly Roman, commentators to push the effeminacy of Greece. Most hoplites were far